Victim Disarmament Zones kill again

Kirkwood, Missouri

It has pretty much always been against Missouri law for nearly anyone except authorized government employees to possess a firearm in a government building. Enactment of the Concealed Carry law did not change that.

That did not stop a disgruntled Murdering Bastard from shooting up a Kirkwood, Missouri City Council meeting after shooting two Peace Officers on the way in.

Portsmouth, Ohio

In Ohio it was virtually impossible for a private citizen to legally carry a firearm in a school building and/or possess a firearm while being the subject of a restraining order even before the Buckeye State enacted a concealed carry law. It still is, the concealed carry law did not change that. It did not stop another Murdering Bastard from entering an Elementary School in Portsmouth, Ohio, who then shot and stabbed his estranged wife. The wife is not dead, but another woman that the Murdering Bastard stabbed on the way to kill his wife is.

May Never Know

Who knows if any of the citizens at the Kirkwood Council Meeting or the Teacher in Ohio with the restraining order would have been armed if they could do so legally.

What we do know is that none of the laws forbidding the possession of a firearm in government buildings or schools and at least one restraining order stopped either of these Murdering Bastards.

Again law abiding citizens were left defenseless while criminals, whose job description is to violate the law, wantonly ply their trade.

In light of the mass murders at Virginia Tech, the Van Maur in Omaha and other places in the last year or so many have expressed the notion that "introducing a another firearm into the situation will only make it worse."

I don't know where that kind of idiotic thinking comes. If you think that what your really saying is;

Even if it could be stopped immediately I would rather see a Murdering Bastard continue killing 5, 10, 20, 30 more people than to have a private citizen with a legally possessed firearm end the killing spree at any point during the rampage.


What kind of sick, twisted and perverted person are you that you would rather see multiples of people murdered than have one of your fellow citizens save lives?

It is disgusting to think that;

1. People find it morally superior for a woman to be raped, beaten and strangled to death with her own panty hose than it is for her to explain why she shot her attacker.
   
2. People find it morally superior for a murdering bastard to kill 32 people than it is for a legally armed citizen to stop the killer at victim two, four, twelve or at any point of the rampage.

What your telling me is it is more preferable to you that 30 people needlessly die than for one citizen with a firearm to end it, so I'll ask again;

What kind of sick, twisted and perverted person are you?

Heads up Nebraska College Students

I know your out there

I know I have a few readers that attend Doane, UNL and South East Community Colleges. I hope you will do something with this.

I received an E-mail from Michael Flitcraft, Second Amendment Ambassador and Liaison for Students for Concealed Carry on Campus this morning.


Rather than wax eloquent I'll just post the E-mail;

- Because everybody has the right to self defense.


ANNOUNCEMENT:


SCCC is happy to announce that we will be performing another national empty holster protest (EHP). The Spring 2008 EHP will be held from April 21st to April 25th. Campus leaders are encouraged to contact the organizers about other activities to hold on their campus to make the EHP even more successful.

Please sign up at our event page, which can be found here: FaceBook


We should have a press release out shortly, so keep your eyes peeled!!

I hope this is of interest to some of you Students at Nebraska's Institutions of higher learning.

Check out the links and sign up.

Mossberg SSI-One: My thoughts

Since anyone that reads this Blog knows I have an affinity for the Mossberg SSI and it seems to be one of the main search topics that bring people to this site I thought I needed to do a more extensive post on it.

Cell phone pic of Jr. on the 30-06 when the Simmons 44mag still topped it

Brief History

In the late 1990's Mossberg offered for sale a single shot interchangeable barrel rifle, with the model designation of; SSI-One. I'm sure it was meant to compete with the Thompson Center Encore and/or the Ruger Number 1/3. In design it resembles the Ruger and in operation it breaks open like the Encore. Since I was more concentrating on sidearms during the early 2000's than any other type of firearm, I don't believe I was even aware of the SSI-One until sometime in 2003 or 4. Since then I have acquired 3 actions and a total of five barrels.

.223 with Simmons 44mag 3-10 scope

The SSI stands for "Single Shot Interchangeable" and according to my source at Mossberg it was not the commercial success they hoped it would be and discontinued it in, I believe the spring of 2006.

Availability and Calibers

On-line firearm auction sites GunBroker and AuctionArms each generally seem to average 3-4 complete firearms listed at anyone time, some purported to still be "new in box". Both sites will occasionally have just the barrels new and used in various calibers.

While caliber selection was not as prolific as the TC Encore, Mossberg provided 24 inch barrels in some of the most popular calibers. Possibly other caliber selections would have been added if the firearm had been a success.

The following is a list of the entire line as I know it to be;

.223 in sporting (tapered) or heavy barrel
.22-250 in sporting (tapered) or heavy barrel
.243 in Sporting barrel only
.270 in sporting barrel only
.308 in sporting barrel only
.30-06 in sporting barrel only

Mossberg also manufactured two 12 gauge barrels for the SSI-One.

One is is a ported rifled barrel for slug hunting big game.

The other was designated a "Turkey" barrel. The turkey barrel is similar to the Mossberg 835 in that it is a 12 gauge chamber with a 10 gauge bore. The thought there and research has bore out that allowing the shot to expand into a larger barrel and then choke it made for tighter patterns at longer ranges. This is not a new concept and is reminiscent of the "jug chokes" common in some muzzle loaders clear back to 1800 give or take a decade. The SSI "Turkey" barrel uses the same Ulti-choke tubes as the 835.

Both 12 gauge offerings are chambered to accept 2 3/4, 3, and 3 1/2 inch shotshells.

Each barrel also comes with its own fore end. For the heavy and shotgun barrels the fore end is flat to the front end. On the sporting barrels the fore end is of the Schnabel type. (An example of this can be seen in one of the pictures that accompany this article.

Note Schnabel fore end knob of the rifle on the left.

The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

The SSI-One is not without a few very insignificant draw backs.

Loading/reloading/unloading

As previously mentioned the SSI is the same type of break action as used in the TC Encore, the difference being on the Mossberg the lever must be pulled down instead of squeezed up as the TC requires. It that regard it is not as handy to open for loading.

The "Mossy" SSI 12 gauge rifle broken open

It has been my experience that this has only been a minor irritation at the range. In the field rarely have I ever had the opportunity for a follow up shot so rapid reloading in a hunting firearm has not been a problem for me. The hunted species either fell where they were or even had I possessed a semi-auto they had bounded into thicker cover almost immediately thus negating any kind of follow up shot anyway.

Trigger Pull

Many SSI owners have complained about the trigger pull being overly heavy. It seems the main contribution to the trigger weight may be a result of the tang mounted safety. When the SSI is broken open it automatically engages the tang mounted safety and resets the trigger and firing pin. Apparently the combination of parts that create those actions have an effect on the trigger pull. (I have not had any of my SSI's apart to verify that, I am relying on what some others, who have delved into the innards, have had to say.)

On all three Mossberg SSI actions that I own I find that the trigger pull is a bit stiffer than it may could be. Having said that I do not find them unbearably so in fact the two that have the most range time have significantly better triggers. This suggests to me that there may be a "break in factor". The SSI was never meant to be a "Sniper" or target rifle.

Weight

For many The SSI is a heavy gun. Too heavy to carry when hunting for hours on foot in uneven terrain. On this I will agree. My SSI actions with a scoped sporting barrel installed tops out at just over 8 pounds. Replacing the sporting barrel with a scoped .22 bull barrel and the SSI will weigh in at just over 10 pounds.

Weight is not something I am concerned with as a rule. My hunting does not consist of stalking up, down and around the countryside elevations as I did in the spring of my youth. Now days I hunt mainly from a stand so weight is just not the issue for me it once was.

Sights

None of the SSI-Ones come with nor are they drilled and tapped for open sights. This I am sure can be remedied by a competent "Gun Mechanic" for a fair price. Instead every SSI, even those bored for 12 gauge, comes from the factory drilled and tapped for and with a Weaver telescope base. On the rifle calibers the base is of standard mounting. On the 12 gauge rifle barrel that I have the telescope base is "welded" or soldered directly to the barrel. I can only surmise this is to keep the base from being "shot loose" by the recoil effects of 3 and 3 1/2 inch 12 gauge rounds.

The Mossberg is not without it's advantages

Affordability

The original MSRP for the SSI as I recall was nearly 500 dollars, with additional barrels checking for 279 to 300. I have never seen a complete firearm or barrel go for that much. I have 3 receivers and 5 barrels. Two are 30-06, and one each .223 heavy, .270 and 12 gauge rifled. If MSRP had been paid it would have easily totaled over 2000 dollars tax included. I shopped around and I have less than half that invested in the inventory listed above and 2 of the complete firearms and one of the barrels was "New in the Box unfired".

Accuracy

In all my shooting of the SSI and the writings I have read by others that own or have experience with the firearm accuracy has not been a complaint. As stated before it is not a target gun and it most certainly was not designed to be a military grade sniper rifle.

Rifle

Most shooters, myself included have not only been able to keep 3 to 5 shot groups under 1 1/2 inches at a hundred yards on any given day, we consistently shoot groups an inch or less. I have yet to fire my .270 barrel but my 30-06 sporting barrels and .223 heavy barrel from a solid bench rest all shoot under an inch at the century yard mark. Others have reported like experiences with their SSI's as well.

Any firearm can be more finicky that a house cat when it comes to what they will digest. Having only shot Remington Express Core-Lokts with the 125 grain Reduced Recoil, 150 and 165 grain bullet offerings in the 30-06 barrels I assume that I was fortunate to find an excellent round for my SSI's right from the start. I am especially great full as I prefer Remington Core-Lokts over any other factory loadings I have tried. They are available virtually any where, I have used them for years and simply put; They get the job done.

Remington advertises the Reduced Recoil round as having the same energy at 200 yards as the 30-30 does at 100 with the recoil of a .243. Considering that we have only shot about a box and a half (30 rounds) of the 125 Grain Reduced Recoil loads and they do not seem to shoot as tight as the 150 and 165 grain. They tend toward the 1 1/2 mark from the 1 in 10 inch twist 30 caliber barrel. Not bad for a mass produced off the rack hunting rifle.

From the 24 inch .223 heavy barrel, with a 1 in 9 inch twist, I have found that the 67 grain Hollow Point offering from Ultra (50 rd boxes from Cabela's) will put all rounds touching or in one ragged hole at 100 yards. Due to the rate of twist I have not had that success with any of the 55 grain FMJ factory offerings. The 55 grain leans hard toward 1 /1/2 to 2 inches at the same distance.

Shotgun

I initially used 2 3/4 inch Remington 1 ounce Copper Solid slugs to sight in the 12 gauge Rifle barrel. Although I thought they did extremely well for a "shotgun", I felt the firearm was capable of better accuracy than what I was seeing. Since the barrel is chambered for 3 1/2 inch shotshells I reasoned that the slug on leaving the shorter hull "wobbled" a bit before it entered the throat and rifling. This jump from the end of the hull into the rifling can and does effect accuracy.

After stepping up to the same slug in the 3 inch offering, to reduce or eliminate the "jump" I consistently experience 3 shot groups around the 1 1/2 inch or smaller mark at 100 yards.

Ne Years day 2007 my buddy Brad in Oklahoma shot one of my SSI's with the 12 gauge barrel and from a benched rest had 3 shots touching at 100 yards with the 3 inch Copper Solid 1 ounce slugs the very first time he shot that firearm.

I have had suggestions of other brands of slugs to try that may or may not be more accurate and one day I might even try a box (5 rounds) of Remington's 3 1/2 inch Copper Solid. I am not recoil sensitive, but I am not a glutton for punishment either, I just do not think there is any gainful advantage for justifying the extra cost of those mini mortar rounds. At the time of this writing a 5 round box of 3 inch Copper Solids goes for 12-14 dollars a box. The 3 1/2's are even more.

Shootability

Not to be confused with accuracy, shootability is how comfortable a firearm handles and comes to shoulder. The SSI for me is a better fit than many more expensive factory or custom long guns I have been fortunate enough to own or shoot. The length of pull is perfect for me and when I shoulder the SSI's it comes to my cheek exactly where I want it to be.

As my brother James is right handed and left eye dominant, the Mossberg SSI is truly an ambidextrous rifle. Since the action works exactly the same from either side the tang mounted safety is simply frosting on the cake.

Holding Zero

At this point all I can speak from is my experience and my experience alone. I have swapped barrels on my SSI-Ones and found that they will hold their zero no matter which action I put them on. I believe this is because the telescopic sights are rigidly mounted directly to the barrel. Where the barrel points so does the properly mounted and adjusted scope. Once the scope is zeroed for the barrel it is on it will shot to that point of aim, plus or minus a click or two, on all 3 receivers/actions unless something breaks or gets banged around pretty hard.

Note: I generally always sight my hunting rifles at 100 yards and a click or two at that distance is never more than a one inch adjustment sometimes a half inch depending on whether the scope is one click = 1/4 or 1/2 inch at 100 yards.

What I won't do however, is take to the field without double checking any barrel change on the range. I do not suggest anyone else do it either. The harvesting of a living thing is much too important not to insure a properly sighted firearm. As safe ethical hunters we owe it to the creatures we pursue to take them as quickly and humanely as possible.

In the field

Since I have began "collecting" the Mossberg SSI I have had the opportunity to use it in the field on numerous occasions. So far I have taken 3 deer with the 12 gauge rifle barrel and a wild hog with the 30-06 barrel and one with the.223 barrel.

Two of the deer were harvested in my home state of Nebraska. The third was a Fallow deer taken in Oklahoma. I know the 12 gauge, especially the 3 inch copper solid, is a bit much for the diminutive Fallow, but it was what I had at the time.

The wife and I were out looking for wild boar and she was fortunate enough to bag a nearly 300 pound boar. While we were waiting the customary half hour to go into the thick brush after it a herd of the spotted deer happened by our blind. I guess I could have taken it with her Model 94 30-30, but it didn't occur to me at the time and the delicious little beast fell to the copper solid slug.

Last year in Oklahoma I harvested a boar that weighed in at about 200 pounds. I used a 30-06 barrel to issue a 165 grain Core-Lokt invitation to the Gunscribe dinner table from about 60 yards away. The boar received the request in his left ear and was so overwhelmed with the honor he feinted away dead on the spot.

As noted in a previous post this year I took slightly smaller hog at triple last years distance using the .223 with the same result.

The Mossberg SSI is a sturdy well made accurate firearm designed to withstand the rigors of field use.

Chain Ranch Canton, Oklahoma at Years End

It was Cold

The Sooner dawn broke crisp and cold on four inches of new snow as we loaded our gear into the truck for another annual Oklahoma hog hunt. We had arrived at the Chain Ranch the afternoon before early enough to do some scouting and glassing.

Warmed by hot coffee and some spicy homemade venison jerky Jim and I drove from high spot to high spot glassing and regaling each other with tales of hunts past and initial ideas for hunts future.
Encouraged by the size and numbers we saw by mid morning we drove back to the bunk house for more coffee and hot oatmeal. From there we elected to head to the firing/archery range the ranch has set up for guests to check sight their chosen hunting tool.

From the bench

I broke out my Mossberg SSI topped with the heavy .223 barrel and a 23 year old Simmons 3-10 power 44 Mag model telescope. Jim opened up the case on his SSI in 30-06 topped with a Leupold 3-9 power Rifleman scope. Sitting down at the bench I fired once at 100 yards and made a one windage click right to left adjustment. Since the temperature was still rather cool I allowed a only a couple of minutes between each of the next three shots for cold bore sighting. All three 67 grain hollow points formed one ragged hole at the century mark and I was good to go.

(Yes that is my M-4gery laying on the bench if the fore ground. )

While I was sighting the .223, Jim checked his ought six at 50 before moving out to 100 yards. His "Mossy" had previously been sighted in for 165 grain Remington Core-Lokts and with the 150 grain Remington Core-Lokts he was using this year it required a tad bit of windage adjustment but with 5 or 6 rounds he was dialed in as well.

Coyotes Galore

I really wasn't planning on taking a hog that early in the hunt and not with the 22 caliber barrel either. I had my 30-06 barrel along for that. It is topped with the same Leupold Rifleman scope that is on Jim's SSI thanks to Mrs Gun. She had shot his and when I removed the Simmons to put it on the .223 barrel she bought the Leupold for the ought six. I was at that point hoping for possible chance shot at one or two of the nearly out of control population of coyotes. Over the next couple of days we saw at least six during broad daylight and weren't even looking that hard. They were all several hundred yards away and and quickly increasing the distance by the time we spotted them.

After lunch we headed back out.

About mid afternoon we spotted some sizable hogs through an over grown windbreak of mature trees. They were clear on the other side of the meadow at what we estimated to be 200 yards. Taking up the only long rifle I had (.223) with me we eased through the trees to the inside of the break. Initially I only taken the rifle for a better look at them on the 10 power setting.

I figured that we had closed about 25 of the 200 yards and that was as close as we were going to get without spooking them. Luck dealt a good hand by providing a suitable shoulder height branch in just the right location. Even standing off hand this was an absolute solid rest. I decided I was going to take one of them and hand signaled to Jim that I was going shoot. Settling the cross hairs behind the right ear of the chosen one my finger eased back on the trigger.

Okay I'm going to be bragging now

Recoil with the .223 in a 10 pound rifle is virtually non-existent. When the trigger broke I watched through the telescope lens as the targeted hog immediately went down rolling over in the process. Jim kept his eye on the prostrate pig as I reloaded a single shot rifle about as quickly as a break open single shot can be reloaded ... just in case. After a minute or so we decided that a follow up shot was unnecessary and we cut back through the break to the truck. During the half mile drive around the other side of the field Jim asked me were I had aimed. With an index finger I indicated a spot behind my ear.

When we got to the hog we located the entrance point. At 175 yards standing from a solid rest that little 67 grain HP impacted within one inch of where I was aiming. There was no noticeable exit point and only pieces of the bullet were recovered when we autopsied the neck area.

A shot at that distance with a center fire twenty two is not something I would normally consider taking on a wild hog, but I had just shot that gun on the range. I know the trajectory of that round and and the remaining energy at that yardage. I also am very familiar with that firearm. It was a shot, under those conditions, I knew I could make.

Why brag about that?

All of my previous shots on hogs have been less than 80 yards. One was between 15 and 20 yards. I have done a lot of long distance shooting on firing ranges, (as in hundreds of yards) but in over 40 years of hunting all over North America and Alaska I can't ever remember taking a shot at game beyond 100 yards. Additionally I have taken several deer with bows and muzzle loaders. I had always been able to get close enough for the limitations of my equipment or they came in range of a blind.

More for another post

Jim bagged a 500 pound cow Elk the next day and before it was all over with we ended up with a late season whitetail doe as well. Since I have been back home I have processed over 60 pounds of the meat into breakfast, Italian and summer sausage. 12 pounds of elk and three pounds of fatty wild pork make a heck of a summer sausage I'll guarantee you that. The same ratio of deer and wild pork makes some of the best eating Italian sausage I have ever had as well. Thirty plus pounds of the pork was equally made into breakfast and Italian sausage.

Chain Ranch Outfitters

My family and I have been hunting on the Chain Ranch in Canton, Oklahoma for years. We do not get any freebies or discounts from my writing about our hunts there. Yes they know I write about our experiences there. On their own they discovered them on line nearly a year after I had written the first one We pay what ever the going rate is for lodging and trophy fees.

Hogs

All in all a hog hunt at the Chain Ranch is an affordable experience. It runs fifty bucks a day per person to stay in the lodge and you provide your own food. Both the lodge and the bunkhouse (which I prefer) have full kitchen facilities that include a microwave and coffee maker. Each also has its own washer and dryer.

The trophy fee for taking a hog is a flat one hundred bucks. It does not matter if it is a 40 or 400 pound animal. The Ranch also has an efficient cleaning station and meat locker. For an extra fee they will skin and quarter your harvest, or you can freely use their facility and equipment and do it yourself.

Exotics

The Ranch also has several exotic species that include a number of different species of rams, fallow deer, elk and buffalo. Trophy fees for these vary from 300 bucks on up.

Deer

They also book and guide firearm, muzzle loader and archery trophy hunts for whitetail bucks on the 100,000 plus acres they control in north west Oklahoma and south central Kansas. These hunts are a bit pricey for my wallet, but I have never been "horn hunter" so I abstain from counting my own opinion.

Birds

The Chain Ranch also offers guided hunts for waterfowl. Pheasant, Quail and Dove populate the property as well and hunters have the option of using their own dogs.



If your looking for an affordable hunting opportunity check them out. All of the contact information is on their website. Included are pictures that I have taken and freely given them permission to use on their site and in presentations that they do at Sportsman's Shows around the country.

Lastly if you would please do me a favor;

This website gets a lot of traffic (30 - 50 hits a month) directed to it from people surfing the net looking for information on hunting the Chain Ranch. If you book a hunt or just call them concerning a hunt tell them you read about it here on From the Heartland.

Thanks

Gone Hunting

I am off for what I consider some well deserved time away. I'm not sure how much hunting I personally will be doing as I plan on spending a good deal of my time guiding.

I will be free from the tentacles of the internet for several days.

I hope everyones Christmas was Merry and here is wishing all a Happy and prosperous New Year.

Since I won't be posting until after the First I hope that you all will take the time to peruse some of the Blogs an my Blogroll. There are some really good reading there I am sure will interest you if you haven't been reading them all along.

I really don't have a favorite myself, but if I only have a few moments to check out what others are writing the two I usually read first are;

TFS Magnum and The Plains Feeder

Recently another Blog has come on my radar screen and it is worth a look;

Army Wife Toddler Mom

I really enjoy her writing as some of it hits closer to home for me than I would care to admit. As the Blog title implies she is the wife of a serviceman and mother of small children. It gives me a new perspective on what my wife had to endure while I was gallivanting around the world all those years ago when our own children were toddlers.

When I get back to the keyboard and start fussing with my Blogroll AWTM will be added to it. I also note that she is connected (Blogroll) to a number of other service wives whose husbands are currently in other parts of the world.

Keep the faith all

If you support Gun Control you might be a Racist Bigot Metrosexual

I have written on the subject in the past and wondered why so many self appointed Black Leaders want their constituency put down and kept down by denying them their Right to Keep and Bear Arms.

You know like the Reverends Jackson and Sharpton, Nebraska State Senator Ernie Chambers et al.

All of Americas Federal and State Gun Control laws were founded in racism. They were enacted to keep firearms from Freed Slaves. It is not just a Southern thing either most if not all of the Northern states passed these atrocious laws as well. In fact the most stringent are still enforced in the states of Massachusetts, New Jersey and New York.

Note; For all you Girlymen that find that hard to believe, better people (both white and black) than you will ever be have spent years researching the written record of the State Senates and Houses of Representatives. Their exhaustive work has been published all over the Internet. It is out there if you are not afraid of what you might find.

Realizing you have been a useful idiot is a bitter pill isn't it?

Those gun laws are still on the books in most of those states. When SCOTUS and the various State Supreme Courts ruled that these laws were discriminatory and un-Constitutional they were NOT repealed. They were amended to include most of the population, more particularly the poor and indigent.

Those modified discriminatory laws are the very ones that many of you want to see made tougher. To do so in my book is suborning discrimination. That in my world makes you a Racist and a bigot.

Just so we are clear, Yes, I said I think you are a racist and a bigot if you support gun control. You are perpetuating the filthy disgusting racist discrimination initiated by some of our ancestors one hundred and fifty years ago

Yes a bitter pill indeed.

I have a friend in Ohio, Frank M. Reed

Frank has been a staunch out spoken proponent of the Second Amendment for much longer than I have. He has is also consistently more civil than me.

My friend Frank is, not that it should matter to anyone, also a Christian Gentleman of Color, Negro, African-American, American of African decent or what ever is the Politically (there have been so many different ones in just my half Century) Correct reference these days.

To me none of that PC bullshit matters, Frank is a Great American and friend that Mrs Gun and I don't get to see often enough. In fact the last time we were together Frank cut our visit short. He had to. He was urgently needed at his Church. I understood and wished him until the next time Godspeed.

Frank's incite full writings have, over the years been accepted for publication in such prestigious print media as Handguns Magazine, Shield LEAA, and The New Gun Week. Widely read daily newspapers have also seen fit to publish some of Frank's work, The Cleveland Plain Dealer and The Washington Times to name two.

Frank sent me a heads up e-Mail that his latest literary work will appear in the current (Jan 1st) issue of The New Gun Week and here are a couple of snippets that I found compelling;

As an American of African descent, I have observed over the years the constant erosion of our Second Amendment right at the hands of our black elected officials on the local, state and federal levels.

I have observed the same thing Frank and it pisses me off that they (African-American Leaders) would participate or continue in the same racist mantra that tried keep the black population in check until the Civil Rights Movement of the Sixties.

Yes Readers, I am old enough. Yes I remember those years.

You see my parents were not racist or bigoted and they did not raise my brother, sister and me to be either. We knew who Dr. King was while he was STILL ALIVE. Unlike so many today of any racial background that only know what their cousins brother-in-laws neighbors ex-wifes Uncle said about him;

I heard first hand on the evening News Dr. Martin Luther King preaching self reliance and independence.

Today I hear his "self anointed" successor Jesse Jackson preach dependence on the government, but mostly dependence on him.

That's right on him because Jesse Jackson knows more about what you need or want than you do for yourself. If you don't believe that just ask him He'll tell you. As long as you send that check to the Rainbow Coalition that is.

Why do major cities with large population consisting of people of color and black elected representatives have the toughest historically racist gun laws? This will always continue to blow my mind. The last time I checked there is a majority of black-on-black crime. I have not seen any white sheets in my neighborhood.

I think the answer to that is because a large segment of the population including large numbers of blacks believe that if we pretend hard enough that slavery in America never happened then we can feel good about ourselves, hold hands, sing Kumbaya and all will be right with the world.

The truth is these Black Leaders and a majority of the White ones have no clue as to the origin of Gun Control. Even if they did it likely wouldn't make any difference to any of these leaders (black or white). They attain their status as leaders because they crave power and will resort to any means to get it, even if it means denying things like slavery, the Holocaust and the racist roots of gun control ever happened.

The farther we get from the truth the more apt we are to repeat the mistakes we made in the past

The only problem with this pseudo-pretense is that many of our leaders do not have a clue about the history of racist legislation and bigotry since the end of slavery. For them the United States has no history prior to the Civil Rights Act. The truly sad part is none of our youth are being taught an accurate history of America either.

Ever wonder why the KKK is not very active anymore?

They don't need to be, they have Jackson, Sharpton and Chambers doing their work for them.

Mr Reed is on the World Wide Web

For those that are interested, Friend Frank has a website where all of his published work is archived. Check it out, I promise you will learn something about American History.

If your not afraid to face your own racist demons.

PUBLISHED ARTICLES

And now out of genuine respect for my friend Frank Reed I will end with the two words that that he closes every E-Mail with,

In Freedom

My take on US v. Miller again

Girlymen understand this;

The Second Amendment is not just about target shooting or hunting. The Second Amendment is not about need. The Second Amendment does not grant or confer a Right to keep and bear arms. The Second Amendment is a written recognition that all human beings are naturally born with the obligation and the duty to utilize man made tools to defend and protect themselves, their loved ones and their country. The Second Amendment guarantees that the Right shall not be infringed.

I know this will be hard to comprehend, but try anyway

The National Firearms Act of 1934 - Was not enacted to prevent law abiding citizens from owning military firearms. The purpose of the Act was to require the taxation through registration of a certain class of firearms used by GANGSTERS. (Damn it must of hurt reading that)

Too many Metrosexual Dopes have been misquoting US v. Miller for too long.

1. Miller was charged with violation of the NFA - transportation of an UNTAXED short barreled shotgun.

2. Millers attorney Gutensohn challenged the constitutionality of the NFA in that it usurped the Police Powers of the State and it violated the Second Amendment. (As will be shown Gutensohn erred in not specifying exactly why the NFA violated the 2nd Amendment.)

3. Judge Ragon only ruled it (the Act) unconstitutional on the merits cited by Gutensohn and dismissed the charges against Miller. (As will be shown Ragon erred in not issuing a Not Guilty/Guilty verdict)

4. Prosecutor Barry appealed Ragons "unconstitutional ruling" to SCOTUS.

5. SCOTUS heard the Constitutional Appeal and made two points;

• A) That a law requiring the taxation through registration of certain firearms used primarily by GANGSTERS does not usurp the Police Powers of the State and,
  
• B) as to the Second Amendment we have not been asked to decide whether a sawed off shotgun IS or IS NOT an implement of the Militia and you have not told us that it HAS or HAS NOT any reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, because of that we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument. (Gutensohn's error ref: #2 above)

6. SCOTUS reversed Ragons decision concerning 5A (above) and remanded the case to the Lower Court for Ragon to decide whether a short barreled shotgun is an implement of the Militia. (ref: #5B above). (The U.S.government purchased thirty thousand short-barrel shotguns for the armed forces in World War I.)

7. Miller passed away before Judge Ragon could carry out the instructions handed down to him by SCOTUS.

This next part is for all of you illiterate fools that have;

• a) never read Miller for yourselves and/or,
• b) been relying Girlyman interpretations by Metrosexuals more stupid than you are,
• c) and/or the Public School of your youth employed an incompetent Political Science/History Teacher.

For most of you Metrosexuals I am betting all of the above.

SCOTUS never said that the Right to own military firearms WAS NOT an individual one.

Miller's side was not represented when SCOTUS heard arguments, if it had it is likely that Gutensohn would have convinced SCOTUS that a short barreled shotgun was in fact an instrument of the militia and there would not be the Metrosexual controversy we have today. (The U.S.government purchased thirty thousand short-barrel shotguns for the armed forces in World War I.)
Only the prosecution was there to present their side.

Despite Miller's side not being heard SCOTUS in their final brief went out of their way to note that the possession of firearms suitable for military service IS PROTECTED by the Second Amendment as an individual Right;

"Clauses intended to insure the possession of arms and ammunition by all who were subject to military service appear in all the important enactments....


....shall equip himself, and be constantly provided with a good fire arm,


....provide himself, at his own Expense, with a good Musket or Firelock, a sufficient Bayonet and Belt, a Pouch with a Box therein to contain not less than Twenty-four Cartridges....


....men were expected to appear bearing arms supplied by themselves and of the kind in common use at the time.

Far too long unAmerican Boneheads heads have been wrongly referring to Miller as a precedent for the government to control and/or ban any and all firearms. (Oh thats gonna leave a mark)

Listen up you dumbass Gumby claymation characters;

The inference by SCOTUS is if a short barreled shotgun is an instrument of the Militia then the Lower Court should find Miller not guilty this time and don't bother us with this bullshit again. (Ragons error ref: #3 & #5B above)

SCOTUS, in Miller, ONLY decided that taxation through registration of firearms primarily of the type used by Gangsters was Constitutional.

Get this through your dense F/Emasculated skulls;

NO WHERE IN ANY OF THE IMPORTANT ENACTMENTS HAS THERE EVER BEEN ENACTED A REQUIREMENT THAT THOSE PRIVATELY PURCHASED FIREARMS BE STORED IN A CENTRAL ARMORY.

What part of CONSTANTLY means where ever they went at all times don't you Airheads understand?

What part of IN COMMON USE AT THE TIME don't you boneheads understand?

Allow me to Clarify

In Fact "common use at the time" illustrates what visionaries the Founding Fathers really were.

They understood and had seen technological improvements in the production of firearms. They knew that further advancements would be made. To that end they wrote laws that would NOT HAVE TO BE CHANGED every time a better firearm was developed. the "common use at the time" requirement transcends time. (To deny this is to imply that the Founding Fathers were short sighted imbeciles)

• In the late 1700's - Common use at the time = Brown Bess Flintlock (The finest "assault weapon" of its day and practically every home had at least one of these "liberated" from the British rifles)
• It the early part of the 2000's - Common use at the time = M-16/AK-47/P-90/MP-5
  

Ouch, that's gonna leave a scar on your psyche isn't it??

The plain and simple truth is that men were required by law to purchase their own personal firearms that were to be of the same type as used by the Militia at that time.

IT WAS DEEMED TO BE NOT ONLY AN INDIVIDUAL RIGHT, IT IS WAS A LAW TO BE OBEYED.

SCOTUS understood that so thoroughly that they were compelled to include those statutory cites in their brief on Miller.

Wail, gnash your teeth and rend your clothing all you want but those historical references by SCOTUS prove conclusively that the Right is an individual one AND requires possession of Military type arms. (Bleeding from the ears yet?)

1. SCOTUS was asked and agreed to determine if a law requiring taxation by registration of firearms used by Gangsters was Constitutional. (They did that ref: #5A above)
2. SCOTUS was also asked to determine that the Second Amendment DID NOT apply to a short barrel shotgun. (This they COULD NOT do as it was not presented to them that a 'Sawed off shotgun IS or IS NOT an an instrument of the Militia/Military and they were NOT asked to make that determination. ref: #5B above)

The short barreled shotgun was used in World War I (prior to the Act that taxed it through registration in 1934 ref: #6 above) as an instrument of the Militia/Military. (It still is today)

I don't expect any of you head in the sand Girlyman idiots to understand this;

SCOTUS did not decide that the Second Amendment was a collective one and that only the Police and the Military could own Firearms suitable for use by the Militia. In fact the SCOTUS brief hints that THE ONLY firearms individuals have the Right to keep and bear are those that are instruments of the militia. (Damn that one had to hurt)

Sorry Boneheads but Miller is not the defining decision that prevents private citizens from owning Militia type firearms.

The lack of a decision in Miller by SCOTUS is the defining determination that the Second Amendment guarantees the Right of the People to keep and bear arm SUITABLE for Military Service.

Note; I have written on this in the past and was fortunate to discuss much of the above with Alan Gura (lawyer representing Heller in US v. Heller) back in October. Alan told me at that time that a number of Ivy league legal scholars that previously held opinions that the Second Amendment was a collective Right, have been re-evaluating their analysis and are now of the opinion that is an individual one.

What part of R I G H T do you not understand?

Neither a Government Entity nor the Agents of that Entity pursuant to their duties have Rights. They only have Powers to act in their official capacity granted to them by the People they represent.

Rights can ONLY be possessed and exercised by Individuals.

The Founding Fathers understood this implicitly when they authored the first ten amendments to the Constitution. (The Bill of Rights) Simply by virtue of birth humans beings possessed natural unalienable rights.

Do you understand that?

To claim their intention in the Bill of Rights was that only the 1st and 3rd through the 10th applied to individuals while the 2nd refers to the government is about as asinine as one can get. (To deny this is to imply that the Founding Fathers were short sighted imbeciles)

PLEASE TELL ME THAT YOU ARE NOT SO LACKING IN INTELLIGENCE THAT YOU CAN NOT UNDERSTAND THAT! PLEASE!

Maybe if you Girlymen hadn't spent so much time smoking pot, snorting coke, drinking and instead of skipping classes paid more attention to your Public School educators I would not have to to rub your nose in it. (Like a bad puppy in a pile shit)

But alas the bottom line is you don't have a clue.

Metrosexuals as a rule will always accept as Gospel the agenda driven Nanny State "womb to the tomb" rhetoric puked up by other Girlymen with an irrational fear of inanimate objects.

Speaking of inanimate objects tell me;

• When was the last time Your kids teddy Bear lifted his leg and pissed on the corner of the couch?
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• When was the last time your computer turned its self on (pun intended) and surfed for Porn? (Yea I know you got your wife/girlfriend convinced it happens, but ...)
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• When was the last time your motor vehicle took its self for a 500 mile joy ride? (Knight Rider was only a television show. KITT was not real)
  

Imagining these things while your stoned doesn't count.

Some of you people are so mentally deficient and uneducated that you just don't realize how mentally deficient and uneducated you really are.

Emascucide/Femascucide Public Awareness Announcement

By Dr. Gun Scribe - Dean of From the Heartland Institute of Constitutional Studies

The following article is published for assistance in diagnosing and understanding the mental mutilation Emascucide/Femascucide.

In order to make an accurate diagnosis one must first understand what it is and how it spreads.

Emascucide/Femascucide - The psychological self sacrificing castration of the basic human instinct to protect and survive. In common vernacular individuals that have willfully mutilated themselves mentally may be referred to as Metrosexuals or more derogatorily Girlymen.

Authors Note; Metrosexual and Girlyman are gender neutral terms when used in context with the diagnosis or descriptive traits relating to the act Emascucide/Femascucide.

Emascucide/Femascucide is not a new phenomenon. In the past however, it was only diagnosed in very small percentage of the population that predominately occupied areas of education and journalism.

There is a pervasive theory that the spread of Emascucide/Femascucide is directly related to attendance at educational institutions and attention to Mainstream Media Outlets.

It must be understood that Emascucide/Femascucide is contagious.

It is generally thought that if one or both parents are girlymen there is a high probability that offspring will be commit Emascucide/Femascucide as well. Girly Parents however, may not have contracted it from their Parents (re: education above). Adults can be convinced to Emascucide/Femascucide themselves by other adults. In order for an adult to become a Metrosexual it usually necessitates being constantly exposed to other Girlymen for an extended period of time.

For some as yet unknown reason those who have been inoculated with Military Service or the spouses/relatives of those who have had such service seem to be relatively immune from Emascucide/Femascucide. The most notable exception thus far is Cindy Sheehan.

Unfortunately Metrosexuality has proven to flourish in large population centers. To date 98% of all confirmed Girlymen reside in major cities and their associated suburbs.

It is extremely cautioned that constant and repeated contact with Girlymen can and does cause others to commit Emascucide/Femascucide.

At this time it is not know if it is still in the epidemic stages or whether it has reached pandemic proportions.

Symptoms

When evaluating for a kitchen table diagnosis test subjects that have committed Emascucide/Femascucide will display the following symptoms;

1) An irrational fear of legally possessed inanimate objects, particularly in public places.

2) Delusional notions that all human beings are incapable of protecting themselves.

3) Emphatically repeat that reliance on trained professional responders is the only logical solution for self preservation.

4) Post unintelligent ramblings on internet message boards the content of which is usually some variation of, "it is far better for a mass murderer to kill 30 innocent victims, while waiting for trained responders to arrive, than it is for a private citizen with a firearm to stop him/her",or "the introduction of a firearm aimed at the mass murderer will only make the situation more dangerous".

Diagnosis

If any of the above symptoms are observed an immediate determination of Emascucide/Femascucide can be made simply by showing the suspected Girlyman pictures of firearms drawn by a child. Note that a girlyman upon visual conformation that the caricature is a gun will immediately;

1) recoil in fear, possibly shredding and throwing the paper firearm so as not to touch it further. (This behavior has mainly been observed in those with teaching and educational administration credentials although that connection is not understood at this time.)

2) adopt facial expressions identifiable as a revulsion for the artistic representation. (This behavior, in overwhelming numbers, has been observed in those with Law Enforcement Credentials. It is suspected that the cause is related to "only the police should have guns" training issues in various departments.)

3) begin incoherent babbling about the dangers of firearms, even those drawn on paper and how only utter and total prohibition of all firearms, including paper drawings and pointed fingers, will completely save society.

Any time this diagnostic test is performed the administrator should be prepared, in advance, for some of the more severe symptoms;

4) Projectile vomiting (This has been noted most often in members of the Mainstream Media)

5) Loss of bladder control (This has been most noted in elderly Girlymen that committed Emascucide/Femascucide very early in life.)

Beliefs

Emascucide/Femascucide has been determined to interrupt the neurons that govern rational thought causing Girlymen to irrationally believe;

1) that representatives of the Nanny State are more qualified to protect them than they are.

2) that it is morally superior for a Murdering Bastard to kill a dozen or more people than to have one armed private citizen save those most of those lives with a firearm.

3) that it is morally superior for a woman to be beaten, raped and strangled with her own panty hose than for her to shoot her attacker/s with a firearm.

Girlymen have proven to be a direct threat to society

By their own admission Girlymen believe that it is far better to allow a Murdering Bastard the killing of as many people as he/she can without any measure of intervention until the killer takes his own life or the Police respond either shooting him/her or taking them into custody after they have run out of ammunition.

Girlymen are apparently resigned to the fact that rape does exist, they are adamant that women should not resist in any manner that will cause any physical or psychological harm to their attackers.

Girlymen are responsible for the successful wanton murder, rape and robbery of an untold number of American citizens. If drastic steps to curtail the Emascucide/Femascucide epidemic it is uncertain how many hundreds more may be harmed or killed.

Physical Identification

At one time a Girlyman was easily recognizable by effeminate mannerisms and dress. This is no longer the case as Girlymen have been diagnosed in all areas of life, dress and occupations.

Important Case Study Note; It can not be stressed strongly enough; Under no circumstance should Girlymen be associated with homosexuality. Although individual gays and lesbians may be Girlymen there are large numbers that have not nor will they ever commit Emascucide/Femascucide. (This has been confirmed by existence of the Pink Pistols and other pro gun Gay & Lesbian Organizations) Homosexuality is not nor has it ever been a requisite for Emascucide/Femascucide. So don't even think it!!!!

Conclusion

As a final note it has positively been determined that the spread of Emascucide/Femascucide is hastened by Politicians and Police Administrations. It has been deduced that a large number of Politicians are in fact Girlymen and that many in the Law Enforcement community while not necessarily Metrosexuals believe that everyone except themselves should be.

These individuals are readily recognizable when they make official pronouncements such as;

1) Do not resist you may get hurt,

2) Individuals should not attempt to defend themselves, only the Police have enough training to do that.

In many communities Local leaders have even gone so far as to develop seminars encouraging local residents to commit Emascucide/Femascucide.

Treatment

The only know treatment for Emascucide/Femascucide is for a Girlyman to involuntarily encounter a violent situation and have the good fortune to survive. This does not work in all cases, but it is encouraging to note that of those cured in this manner the recidivism rate back to Emascucide/Femascucide is very very low.

Mass Murder and the Metrosexual reaction to the Westroads Mall massacre

Introduction

This is a long one and it is not pretty. It's not meant to be. It is meant to be as down and dirty as it is going to read, so go visit the restroom, grab a drink/snacks on the way back and strap yourselves in for a rough ride. If you don't have the stones to get through the whole thing then skip to the bottom of the page and read WHY I WROTE THIS before sticking your head back in the sand.
I am through mincing words. I do not suffer fools gladly and if this commentary doesn't get you away from the shallow end of the gene pool then you deserve what you get.

Some will call it fear-mongering. Wrong answer Dopey! If it is an unpredictable event that happens somewhere everyday (not just mass murder, but rapes, robberies and assaults) then it is not fear-mongering to tell someone they are WOEFULLY UNPREPARED for REALITY if/when brutality comes to call.

Will it ever happen to you? The odds are that it won't. I hope it never does. But how in the hell can you bet the lives of your spouse and kids that it won't? You are a lowlife scumbag fool undeserving of any kind of loving family if you are willing to make that bet.

I am not pulling any punches and if most of them land below the belt .... well that is where I was aiming. I am about to say what has needed to be said for a very long time, and it will be too unpleasant and graphic for some to read and it will be stated in the most unflattering of ways. For too long to many of us have been tip toeing around the issue with politically correct rhetoric that just doesn't impart the seriousness of being prepared to act when violence strikes.

Real Life Sucks sometimes

This is not a review for the latest video game, this is what real violence is. This is a public literary lynching of all the namby pambies (including the Westroads Mall Management and the UNICAMERAL) I hold accountable for the murders at Virginia Tech, SuccessTech Academy and the Westroads Mall this year.

Warning: If you are offended by what you read don't blame me it is your own conscience or lack of responsibility twisting your gut into knots. Sometimes it takes a literary baseball bat between the eyes is to get an Jackasses attention.

And yes I am pissed. Pissed off because, although some deaths may not have been prevented there is absolutely no doubt zip, zilch, nada, none in my mind that the irrational fear of an inanimate object prevented someone from ending it before the body count got high enough for the Murderer/s to cap his own ass.

Metrosexual?? - Less avoidance of femininity and the "emergence of a segment of men who have embraced customs and attitudes once deemed the province of women." Metrosexuals only made their appearance after cultural changes in the environment and changes in views on masculinity.

It used to be called Emasculation ...the word has also come to mean “to socially render a male less of a man,” .... (Wiki)

To put it bluntly it means your "umbilical cord hasn't been cut yet", "still tied to Mommy's apron strings" or "surrendering your manhood to someones purse".

The Politically Correct term is Girlyman and from recent comments on various blogs and message boards I gather that Metrosexuality is much more prevalent than I imagined.

The red words are comments made by individuals to one or more websites. My responses are in black. If by chance you read this and I have selected something you wrote, the answer is YES I am TALKING TO AND ABOUT YOU.

Batter up!!! Here Batter, Batter, Batter!!!!!!! Swing Batter, Batter, Batter!!

Everything about this situation is sad, but what bugs me the most is the mindset of more guns could of made this bad situation better.

What's really sad is that there was at least one knowledgeable firearms person at Westroads Mall, and several at Virginia Tech that could have stopped it practically before it started but were not in possession of a sidearm. What part of mass murders did not happen when it was accepted as a natural thing for men/women to carry firearms . This relatively new phenomena began shortly after "Gun Free Zones" started sprouting up like orange barrels in the Springtime. When there were more guns this shit didn't happen. Interesting huh?

In years past when some miscreant yanked out a shooter and began to massacre innocent citizens, good people (men and women) drew guns shot the dirty bastard down like a rabid dog. They didn't try to get in touch with his inner child or query him about an abused childhood or any other psycho babble bullshit about why. They shot his ass down and saved lives.

If more guns wouldn't make this bad situation better, then why in hell should the cops even bother to show up with guns? After it is all over even. Six minutes is the response time the press is reporting .... that is pretty damn fast. I don't think they could have done better. But then the Murdering Bastard was already dead by his own hand before they got there. No it is not their fault, they did everything humanly possible to get there as fast as they could.

Westroads had unarmed security guards on duty ... well whoop ti do da frickin day. What were they suppose to do? They turned tail and ran .. just like everyone else tried to do and I for one don't blame them one gall darned bit. There wasn't anything they could be expected to do against a rifle with a stick, some handcuffs and a can of cooking spice.

So what if someone had a handgun with them that just would have raised the possibility that they would have over reacted missed and or shot the wrong person. Guns of any place have no business in public.

Got a new word for you Skippy; it's called projection. You know, when you lack the confidence in your own abilities you make up for those short comings by projecting them on everyone else. In your mind it makes everyone equal so you can feel better about yourself. Oh it is precisely because so many ego challenged Girlymen like you have an irrational fear of guns and banned them from public places that we have these Mass Murders. Why is that so hard for you to understand? No need to answer that ... I just did.

Oh and by the way, a nationwide study found that only 2 percent of civilian shootings involved an innocent person mistakenly identified as a criminal. The “error rate” for the police, however, was 11 percent, over five times as high. In defending themselves with their firearms, armed citizens kill 2,000 to 3,000 criminals each year, three times the number killed by the police.

Does that resonate somewhere in your feeble excuse for a brain? Private citizens are forced to kill 3 times more murdering bastards every year than cops and they are 5 times less likely to shoot the wrong person.

Wake up Van Winkle your dreaming.

Why would I want more guns being used when someone is already shooting at me with one?

To save your life Bonehead; unless you and yours can run 2,500 feet per second. So what do you plan on doing if someone starts shooting at you with one? Out run your family? Use your body to protect them so they can watch you coughing up blood as your eyes glaze over choking on your last breath? Superman you ain't so pay attention here; The Westroads Mall Murderer was using a rifle, the bullets would pass completely through your macho ass and take out which ever spouse or kid you are cowering over too. Two dead bodies for the price of one bullet huh?

There's an image every kid should take to bed with them at night; the last time they saw their Father his chicken shit body was ripped with bullets and his blood flowing out all over the floor. Got your life insurance paid up Sparky?

Worse than that what about the image you may go to sleep with every night for the rest of your life; Your running with one or more of your kids and/or spouse a few steps ahead of you when suddenly a cloud of red mist explodes directly in front of one of them. As they tumble to the ground/floor a pool of warm life force blossoms out around the now still form. In that one fraction of an instant your whole world shatters as you hear the faint rasp "Daddy help me, I hurt". POWERLESS to do ANYTHING you know what just happened and it feels like you have just been run over by a cement truck. Quick .... Do you stop and kneel at the fallen hoping the next round doesn't take out another kid or you? Do you scoop them up on a dead run?

Fear mongering????? As I write this a grieving father lays in a Colorado hospital after losing his two teenage daughters from the SAME shooting in which he was twice wounded Sunday.

I'll tell you what you will want because I have heard it over and over from people that have been lucky enough to live through violence. You will want a gun. You will cry for a gun. You will pray for a gun. You would offer up your soul for a gun to save your wife/husband and kids.

You'll be running like a scared little sheep trying to herd your family out of danger all the while praying "Oh how I wished I had a gun, oh please let us be spared, oh I feel so helpless, how I wish I could do something to save my wife/husband and kids, please someone with a gun stop this madness."

But then it wouldn't do you any good would it? Because of your irrational fear of an inanimate object you wouldn't have practiced the skills to function with it and you'd probably end up dead anyway. That is what his is really all about isn't it. You lack the gumption to do what is necessary to protect yourself and your family so you harbor an unhealthy jealousy for those that do.

All it is going to do is raise the risk that I or my loved ones will get shot if there are twice as many bullets flying around the mall.

Raise the risk?? Statistically about the only way you or your loved ones will get shot by a Private Citizen protecting him/herself is if your running at the Mass Murder in question. If that is the case your too stupid to even have kids let alone a gun.

The chances that they will react fast enough to shoot the guy are slim and none.

Bullshit now your just making stuff up. Cite your sources Einstein! Since you'd likely just stand there with warm piss running down your leg you assume everyone else would do the same. Your projecting again.

Plus I don’t care how good a person is at shooting a hand gun on a shooting range trying to shoot a guy when you are in that situation is completely different.

The massacre at the Mall lasted nearly six minutes and you don't think that anyone could react fast enough? By the way how the hell do you know so much about how everyone else is going to act? You don't, you and Skippy need to need to address your dysfunction with projection.

Even if Westroads didn’t ban concealed guns, it’s a stretch to claim that anyone else with a gun on them would have had time to react, much less take out the shooter, before it was all over.

Hey Spanky you might want to check out this News Video. That incident lasted mere seconds and the good guy won. He is unharmed and his family is alive because he was something your not .... Prepared. The massacre at Westroads lasted MINUTES. Just because you have "no ability to act under stress" issues it doesn't mean the entire human race plagued with your short comings.

Those aren't two moons rising Bambi those are headlights.

If one gun is causing a problem, adding additional guns isn’t any kind of solution. Unless you want to add 10 or 20 more people to the body count.

One gun causing a problem???? A gun is an inanimate object, you know just like a hammer, screwdriver or your kids teddy bear, it does not cause problems. When was the last time your kids Teddy Bear got into the cookie jar or hiked his leg and pissed on the corner of the sofa?

Repeat after me, In-an-i-mate Ob-ject

During the time this was being written a woman church volunteer with a concealed carry license in Colorado put a stop to another potential mass shooting. Guess what mathematician; YOUR WRONG. 10 to 20 more??? How about a total of 3 including the Murdering Bastard.

The Leaders of the second Church heard about the first Church shooting and took precautions that INCLUDED guns.

That just shot down all your mindless Metrosexual mantras didn't it???

We are right. It's not a fluke. It works. Hyperventilating yet because you can't handle the truth?

How's that for ripping your dumbass remark to shreds??

A prepared woman has got more NADS than you sissified Girlymen that are making these emasculated remarks. She saved an entire Congregation, you won't even take steps to save your own families. Have you no shame. Are you feeling real ashamed about your metrosexuality yet? You should be. When a Murdering Bastard takes out a gun to do harm, the ONLY viable solution is another gun.

Oh and you know what really sucks? If that had been Nebraska a whole bunch of people would be dead. 10? 20? 30 or more? You know why? Because in its infinite wisdom and encouraged by Girlymen like you the UNICAMERAL made it illegal to possess a concealed firearm in places of worship.

Essentially a church in Nebraska may not even be able to secure its self even if the Elders wanted to.

Now ain't that a daisy?

Neither does the scenario that some armed person will shoot the assailant dead before he opens fire on innocent people. It hasn’t happened. It’s a figment of your imagination.

Your right some armed person likely won't shoot the assailant dead before he opens fire. Even law abiding citizens fully prepared to protect themselves are not telekinetic. How the hell is anyone suppose to know until it happens. Some armed person WILL however, just like she did in Colorado stop the Murdering Bastard BEFORE he can achieve a 10 to 20 or more body count.

And for all you Girlyman Metrosexuals I highly suggest that you read this; Firsthand account of the Von Maur

Yes Girly guys/gals the someone that you all claim doesn't exist was there. The truth is in most instances there is someone there, someone who has been disarmed by "NO GUNS ALLOWED ON THIS PROPERTY" signs. Until now you really didn't know how intellectually inferior you were did you. Now don't you feel really stupid?

Since you have been conditioned to the "Woe is me I am so piss down my leg scared and too gutless to take responsibility for myself syndrome", I doubt very seriously any of this will have an effect on you. You'll go about your daily lives living and working on Sesame Street whining about how all the rest of us are out of step with your utopia induced reality. But from here on there is no excuse because now you know how mentally deficient you really are.

So instead of a scenario where guns are heavily regulated and A LOT less people die in gun related deaths (Europe), you’d favor a scenario that’s never happened?

If you are literate enough and had the stomach to read this far then you should be able to Google the on-line versions of Media Publications from Great Britain and Australia. If you aren't to cloistered to broaden your horizons you will find that crime in London has surpassed that of New York City. Crime has risen so many hundred percent in England that Britons are demanding the House of Lords for their gun rights back. The same thing is happening in Mick Dundee's Down under too.

Wakey Wakey you ignorant fools, the British and the Aussies are at the place where you pansy Girlymen want to take us here in this country. Guess what, they don't like it and they want their guns back. Of course some of you just hit the snooze button and stuck your head back in the sand because that just ... well it just doesn't make sense.

I would gladly fight to the death to keep my wife from slightest bit of harm and I am sure that ever man here would do the same we just don’t agree that more guns is the answer was the answer in this situation!!!!!

Oh looooook honey, it's a Knight in shini.... no wait my bad, it is a blithering idiot in Izod and penny loafers.

Fight to the death my ass! With What? Your bare hands against gun/s, knife/s or multiple assailants? How Gallant! How udderly metrosexual stupid. I didn't realize you were Bruce Lee incarnate. Gladly fight to the death against armed adversaries and I won't use a gun to do it.

You really don't see how stupid that sounds do you?

I'll take it as a feeble attempt to reclaim your Gonads from the Gucci though, but it won't work.

Training scenario;

Some dark night your coming out of what ever upscale Metrosexual eatery you fancy and you are accosted. A couple of thugs demand your wallet, Beemer keys and the use of your companions vagina. Assume that martial arts stance while exhaling a couple Kung Fu movie "Hu wawwww's" cause that's all you got Girlyman.

I hope you've seen enough episodes of Walker: Texas Ranger to get it right Kato because here's where you gladly get your wish.

A few thrusts of glimmering steel in the pale moonlight and You'll have fought valiantly to the death .... uhhh ... don't forget to laugh while your life giving fluids spurt copiously from your Carotid Artery.

Remember you did say gladly.

As your blood flows from your wounds and you fade from life on this planet your screaming companion will be hauled off in your BMW likely be murdered too. Well when they tire of her anyway. And while your companion is suffering a bit more than the slight harm you swore a death oath to keep her from she will be fondly remembering you for the gallant knight in shining armor you never were.

NOT!!!

She is going to be cussing the day she met you wondering why she ever got involved with a gutless Girlyman like you in the first place.

Do the Police a favor before you go out tonight; PLEASE have a laminated card pinned to the inside of a pocket (not in your wallet, that went with the Beemer and your spouse remember) with your name, address and telephone number and that of someone to contact in case of emergency. It will speed up next of kin notification. Believe me the cops will really appreciate it.

The truth Kato, is that in a situation like this a gun is the ONLY answer.

I would gladly lay down my life to save my wife and someday my children but what I will not do is pull a gun and try and fire back on that person in a crowded busy mall where I am more likely to take the life of someone else then the gunman him self!!

Show your family what kind a man their husband/father really is. Keep telling them it's just not right to meet force with equal force, that it will be okay the police will come and save them as the blood from your sucking chest wound/s splatters over them. I am sure your husband/wife sleeps better at night knowing that you will gladly lay down and die for her. How do you suppose he/she will sleep at night if it ever happens?

Speaking of "don't resist you get it hurt" it's advice that works real good doesn't it? NOT! Not one single victim at Westroads Mall had a chance to show they wouldn't resist.

Let me see if I got this right Gumby - "Crowded... busy..... more likely take the life of someone else than ...." You actually think that all those other people are going to just hang out there in close proximity to a murdering bastard with their thumbs up their asses while he/she is blasting away?

You really are insane.

I'll bet you a dinner for four at the Steak House right here and now that within 3 seconds there will be a clear field of fire from just about the entire 360 degrees. Walls and structural posts excepted of course.

Hey Bruce here's a thought; Why don't you go back and read that man's account of his experience at Von Maur again. "What I won't do is pull a gun ...." I hear you talking Kato, but your Kung Fu is weak.

If the balloon ever goes up for you and I hope it never does you will be praying, begging, whining and crying for gun. At that moment an over powering will to survive and protect all that you hold dear will kick in and you would sell your soul for something to fight back with.

I have no problem with people who want to keep guns in their homes to defend themselves that is their right and I will not take that away but you have no right to possibly kill innocent people in you illusions of being a hero.

Well I am glad that you think it is alright for people to defend themselves in their homes. I know it is our Right you egotistical snot-nose wet-behind-the-ears whelp. Oh Lord and Master let me kneel and kiss your ring for not taking it away.

NOT! You are an arrogant pompous ass, suffering delusions of grandeur for even thinking you have that power.

I have never had any illusions of being a hero. I have lived more than half a century without getting all swelled up with myself I don't intend to start now.

Oh and Gumby, "let me make one thing perfectly clear", my Right to defend myself DOES NOT stop at my front door. I was endowed by my creator with the unalienable right to defend myself any where on this planet any time I am in danger of death or bodily harm and there is not one single thing you all by yourself can do about it.

That pisses you off doesn't it? To know there are people like me who are self reliant adults secure in the knowledge that we can take care of ourselves and accept responsibility for our actions. It scares you to know that there citizens that don't need Nanny State cradle to the grave tending by the government. It scares you because you don't know how to function without a womb to the tomb safety net to catch your ass if you fail. The bottom line is you just don't think you have it in you and it scares you shitless that you might fall on your ass fail. So you won't even bother to try.

Too bad the world has so little respect for life. Some days I’d love to go back to the “olde days”.

It's not the world that has little respect for life. It is the evil that infests the hearts of a small but dangerous percentage of the population that has no respect for life. "Olde days"? Yea me too. Since there was hardly such thing as a mass murder when a large portion of the population carried a firearm every where, every day. When some loser yanked his/her gun out to commit such an atrocity they were gunned down by the law abiding society BEFORE they could do any harm.

The difference now is that they can kill people much more efficiently thanks to easily accessible guns (I’m not saying that banning guns would prevent this), and we can watch coverage of the event 24/7.

What planet are you from?? Easily accessible?? Listen Mork it is harder to get a firearm in more states today than it was 15-20 years ago. Oh and efficiently has nothing to do with availability?? I guess they don't teach that words have definitions on Ork do they?

I am so saddened that some think they need a gun with them at all times. What a dim and fear filled view of the world one must have to think they need a gun with them always.

Be sad all you want to Girlyman. That is like saying what a dim and fear filled view of flame one must have to think they need fire extinguishers and smoke detectors in their home always.

Listen up; It is not dim and fear filled it is the reality of being prepared knowing that there are dangerous people on this planet and one never knows when one or more will be encountered.

The odds of you being the victim of violence are far greater than your house ever burning down, but your not going to toss out the extinguisher and smoke alarms are you? I didn't think so.

Using tragedy as an opportunity to score political points is bad enough. Resorting to fear-mongering, cheap shots, personal insults, and bizarre references to a spouse’s anatomy is too over-the-top. Your comment and this entire thread are closed.

First off I am not trying to score points for any reason. After this I don't give a shit if you pay attention to me or not. I either opened your mind to the truth or I didn't. I tried. Now the ball is in your court. Getting people to realize that they are responsible for their own safety is far more important to me than racking up political points.

Fear-mongering?? No, the things I am writing about happen to someone/s somewhere randomly every single day in this country. If it is reasonable to think it might happen and point it out so that people can be prepared it is not fear-mongering it is one American fulfilling his duty to his/her countrymen. Of course I don't expect any Baaa ... Baaa herd mentality metrosexual Sheeple to understand that.

Cheap Shots? Personal insults and bizarre references to anatomy? Attention getters my good man attention getters. The only way to get a Girlymans attention is to appeal to his/her finer senses by PISSING THEM OFF. By doing something drastic it makes them respond. When they respond they think, and when they think they open their minds to the alternatives. NOW DO YOU GET IT?

When you use the word RAPE ... well we have all heard it so many times we are numbed to it. It is a word used in polite society. I am a man I can not even begin to to image the horror a rape visits on its victims, most men can't. So when I say rape most guys and a lot of women think .... well yea rape .... I mean .. yuh know its just rape.

On the other hand if I say "He dragged her into the ally where he ripped her away clothing and began shoving his aids infested ...her vagina". NOW YOU GET the traumatic picture. Now you start to feel the horror. Now you see the seriousness. Now your pissed. Now your motivated to do something. Now you understand the need to be, in an instant prepared to fight for life at every waking hour and minute of the day especially when you are away from home..

When you use the word got shot .. Well we have heard it so many times in polite society there is just no picture there.

On the other hand if I say "The exit wound was a large gaping hole of ragged flesh with bits of lung tissue extruding ..... NOW YOU GET the traumatic picture. It turns your stomach. Now you start to feel the horror. Now you understand what really happens. Now your pissed. It is something that you don't EVER want to happen to anyone you know. Now you get pissed. Now you get motivated to be prepared to prevent it from ever happening to anyone you love.

WHY I WROTE THIS

Okay now, take a couple of really deep breaths exhaling slowly and pay real close attention.

I know at a very deep personal level what I hope none of you ever have to learn. What it takes to survive a violent encounter. I never want anyone to ever have to go through that and I will resort to cheap shots, personal insults, bizarre references to body parts and anything else I think I need to get you to understand that

As much as you want to sugar coat it with politically correct words at cocktail parties about "how it can never happen to me or my family" or until it happens to you, you will never understand the serious need to be prepared for a violent encounter.

They are random. They happen all across this country at anytime, anywhere everyday. If they were predictable they could be stopped.

For all you Macho testosterone laden "I will fight to the death for my .....but I don't/won't need a gun do do it" metrosexuals; Yea right! How in hell do you think your going to do that? Against an armed assailant (and they mostly all are these days) all you will succeed in doing is getting a knife ripping into your torso cutting into your vital organs and draining your vital fluids. Or a couple of bullets slam into your chest tearing ragged holes through your lungs and heart. And tonight your kids will have one less parent and your spouse will be a Widow/er.

If you stayed with me all the way to the bitter end I hope by now you realize how udderly ignorant you sound. I don't want you to die, I don't want anything to happen to any member of your family.

I hope by now you realize that violence can occur at any place any time and it is not only your responsibility IT IS YOUR DUTY to be prepared for it and protect yourself and your loved ones as ferociously as you can with every tool available to you.